TVSMOTOR — earnings call
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Prepared remarks
Moderator · Conference Operator
MR. ANNAMALAI JAYARAJ – 36O ONE CAPITAL
MARKET RESEARCH · Management
TVS Motor Company Limited July 21, 2026
Moderator · Conference Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the TVS Motor Company Limited Q1 FY27
Questions and answers
Moderator · Conference Operator
Thank you sir.
We will now begin the question-and-answer session.
We have a first question from the line of Nitin Arora from Axis Mutual Fund.
Nitin Arora
Sir, just one question on the EV.
If you can throw some light, what is our capacity?
How much that capacity we are ramping up over the next 1, 2 years?
And second, if you can throw some light on the EV penetration, which you are talking about even the last 2 quarters that industry will see surprise industry growth will be very good in EV?
Any specific consumer insights if you can share what is leading to it?
And just on the capacity side, how much is the current one?
And how much you're building up for the next 2 years?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
See, we had about 40,000 capacity.
We are now moving to 50,000 plus.
Now we are also constantly reviewing what is the next set of capacities required.
And at this point of time, it has to be very closely watched, and we are investing behind that.
Same way on the EV side, 3- wheeler side also, we are looking at capacity.
Like I said, we had about 20,000 capacity.
Now we are moving to about 30,000 capacities in 3-wheelers., okay?
And a good proportion will be on the EV side as well in 3-wheelers.
So, there is an opportunity to grow further.
And as you know, capacity can be taken step by step because it takes about 3 to 4 months to increase the capacity.
So, we are not so much worried about expansion.
And we also significantly increased our overall 2-wheeler capacity, like I said to 8.3 million this year, but it will happen over a period of quarter after quarter.
On EV, if you look at it, I think initially started with urban.
And we used our network current main dealer network.
Now we have started also supplying to the semi urban.
And progressively, we will also start moving to the rural India.
As it says is iQube when we look at it, it is a scooter and customers are agnostic to the technology.
They love iQube.
So, we have to look at it.
And today, common man has started buying definitely common man started buying.
Initially, it was more of people working at innovation, new technology.
But as we progress now month after month, we are able to see that there are many customers who are otherwise, would have bought an ICE scooter or a motorcycle.
In fact, some of the people from the motorcycle and the categories are also moving into scooter.
Moderator · Conference Operator
We have our next question from the line of Pramod Kumar from UBS Securities.
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Pramod Kumar
And my question is something different related to what's happening in the marketplace, sir.
Because while the industry is grappling with a significant cost hike.
We've seen one of your major rival is actually on a discounting spree in the scooter category.
And which effectively puts your product at a substantial premium versus what the competitor is offering the product at.
So, if you can just and even with that, you've been gaining market share, both on wholesale and on the retail front.
So, can just help us understand what's happening?
And where are we in terms of supply versus demand on our scooter franchise.
And because I see that on wholesale, you have already closed the gap with the market leader or category leaders to single digit.
So, what is driving this kind of brand momentum for you where customers are willing to pay a reasonable premium, if not substantial, a reasonable premium over competitive models and that will the segment leader?
So, if you can share your thoughts there.
And then any implication of all this in terms of is the positive rub-off also helping your electric scooter franchise as well?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
See, overall, we have an excellent range in scooters.
If you look at it, the whole Scooty, of course, we have stopped the Pep, but the other Scooty is still there.
The 100CC scooter is still there.
We started Jupiter 110.
We also then did Ntorq 125.
Then we did Jupiter 125.
Now we have done Ntorq 150.
So, I think all the brands are positioned on customer segments very, very carefully.
And these customer loves this product, they're really love it, okay?
And if you look at -- if I look at -- and we are always constantly believing that category of scooter will grow substantially.
And it is happening.
If I now include ICE plus EV the scooter category share in India is almost 40% And it is going to grow, okay?
It's going to grow.
This is number one.
Number two, in -- when you look at Jupiter 110 or Jupiter 125 or Ntorq 125 or Ntorq 150 we constantly upgrade and give new technologies, new features to our customers because we believe in giving something new every time to the customer because that's very, very important.
This is on top of best-in-class durability and reliability, okay?
So, this is something JD Power, if you look at the scores, we have scored very high scores number 1 position, number 2 positions in scooter category.
So, this is what is most important.
And we always maintain less than 30 days of stocks with the dealers, okay?
We don't want to lose the retail, but all cash and carry dealers, they have to keep the right stock, right colour, right models.
And we are very clear, and we invest behind -- you would have seen during the IPL session also now very good brand awareness and creating why our scooters are good.
So and I have a lot of respect for all our competitors because each one has got their own strategy.
Okay.
With now retail financing coming in.
There is a greater opportunity to grow this segment.
In India, I'm of the view that scooter category share will go up substantially.
And we need to learn from our consumer and customer requirement, what opportunity we can do further increases.
TVS Motor Company Limited July 21, 2026 So overall, it is a focused, customer-driven approach of giving them the best-in-class attractive quality with features, technology and also consistently delivering new products and refreshes for the season and looking at the right spaces.
I think that is what has helped us to grow ahead of the industry.
Pramod Kumar
Sir, second question, what is the dealer inventory what you're carrying right now, included transit.
And what's the target number of days you would like to have before the start of the festive season because we see that, you've been upping production and dispatches month after month, but your inventory numbers are not kind of ramping up reasonably because of the strong retail.
So, if you can just help us understand where would you like to be for a comfortable inventory position so that you don't lose out on the retail demand in the festive.
Also, along with that, if you can just share the export revenue number for the quarter, sir?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
The inventory target maximum 25 to 30 days with the dealers, that is the number we always keep.
Maybe during season 30 days because Dhanteras, one day, you know how the hike happens on the whole huge increases.
So maybe at that time, maybe another four, five days more.
Otherwise, month after month, always below 30 days, okay?
The optimum is we should not lose the retail.
So, this has to be calibrated model-wise, colour wise.
So that is the way we work.
And looking at overall this quarter, IV revenue is at INR 3,634 crores.
Moderator · Conference Operator
The next question from the line of Binay from Morgan Stanley.
Binay
My first question is on your EBITDA margin.
In the last call, we talked about 3% to 5% commodity headwind, and you highlighted that 30% of it is passed on.
Is it fair to say that the worst of commodity headwind is already there in this margin?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Commodity, the significant proportion has happened in Q1, there may be another marginal one because this time also, the war situation is up and down and especially on aluminium and some of the plastic and some other parts, which are related to oil is also moving up and down.
So, this is something we have to closely watch.
But according to me, we always focus on the top line.
We look at the product mix, we look at our journey, and all this has happened in one quarter as the first day.
Even if you increase prices, it will take time to come back.
So that's why we said we have taken about 1.5% in the first quarter. progressively, we have looked at in Q2 also 0.5%.
So, it's a journey.
And we look at from the customer point of view.
And appropriately, we will price it.
It is very important that we have to continue from the customer point of view, the growth momentum.
So, I'm pretty confident that a combination of the product mix plus the growth and scale benefit and cost reduction.
We have a very strong cost reduction team, is going to help us in EBITDA journey.
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Binay
Right, right.
And my second question will be on the electric vehicle side.
If you could talk about now that the IQube platform volumes are rising quite sharply.
How is the profitability of that?
Is that improving?
How closer is it to ICE now, if any comments on EV profitability?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
So, I'm extremely happy that we have crossed 1 million and our hit rate is going month after month.
I completely agree with you.
Contribution is becoming better and better quarter after quarter.
And I'm pretty confident that we'll be a little bit patient, we will reach contributions of whatever we are looking at as a company.
But at this point of time, quarter after quarter, our contribution is going up.
And we look at overall portfolio, how it is yielding results.
And I'm very confident that the direction is the right way.
Binay
Right, right.
Sir, the PLI incentive number, if you could share that?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
PLI incentive number.
Give me a minute.
It is about 0.6%, 0.7% of the turnover.
Moderator · Conference Operator
We have our next question from the line of Gunjan Prithyani from Bank of America.
Gunjan Prithyani
I just wanted to follow up on the growth guidance that you gave for the domestic and the export that you expect the similar momentum.
Is it fair that you are essentially saying 20%, 30% growth should continue in quarter 2 as well?
And if you can just give us some sense on how to think about the full year because with the second half GST last year, we did see a huge bump up post GST.
So, on a full year basis, how are you looking at growth outlook for both the segments, domestic as well as export?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
The Q2 is also going to be good in terms of the growth Okay.
And in my opinion, ICE could be slightly better than Q1, okay?
And EV can keep up the same momentum or slightly better, okay?
In terms of the overall year, I think this year is going to be an extremely good year.
The only important thing we have to all watch is the Q3 because the El Nino plus the base effect, GST, the benefits started coming end of September.
And this year, the season is going to be October, November.
But when I look at from the Customer point of view, I think if there are a little bit of all this West Asia issues, settling down, hopefully, I think that will give much more confidence.
Now LPG is available, okay?
And prices are not growing as we think.
So Q2 will put a good base for that.
So overall, as a year, we should estimate an industry growth of double digit.
Gunjan Prithyani
Okay.
Got it.
And similarly strong performance in the export as well like...
K.N. Radhakrishnan
IB will be very, very strong.
I can tell you.
And EV, the growth momentum will continue.
Definitely, growth momentum will continue.
And you have seen already I told you, EV is 40% penetration and 2-wheeler ICE is about 10.6%.
I'm not taking the average 9% to 10%, kind of taking just to 10.6% of June itself is a good indication that consumers are considering EV in a big way.
Gunjan Prithyani
Got it.
And sir, just two very quick follow-ups.
One, on the EV revenues that if you can share what the number for this quarter was?
And secondly, export has very strong momentum.
Can TVS Motor Company Limited July 21, 2026 you give us a little bit more colour on what's really happening?
Is it Africa recovering from the lows?
Is it expansion of new markets?
Like what really is driving this sort of 20%, 30% growth in the export market despite the headwinds that we're seeing on the West Asia front because some of these markets have actually seen 50%, 60% increase in petrol prices, right?
So, it doesn't seem to have impacted the sentiment in those markets.
So just trying to understand what's driving the growth momentum there?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
I think you asked 2, 3 questions.
So let me digest one by one.
The EV total is about INR 1,780 crores, somewhere around.
INR 1,780 crores, approximately something around that.
Second is on IB growth.
I think definitely Africa, you remember I said last year, the bad is over, the worst is over, the base effect is over.
So definitely, there is predominantly is the taxi market.
Of course, the other commuting classes also slowly going with the infrastructure, roads available in these markets.
So that is definitely helping.
And now people are investing and the industry is growing significantly, and this momentum will continue.
And interestingly, LATAM markets are also doing well.
Asia is doing very well.
So, if you look at these markets where we are very good.
Even in LATAM, we have started doing well better than the industry because we are present every country we have a distributor, and we are also leveraging our product range.
So, it's a combination of a pull in the market going up, plus our product range.
Moderator · Conference Operator
We have our next question from the line of Kapil Singh from Nomura.
Kapil Singh
Just on the capacity, overall capacity, can you just update where are we today?
And what is the plan for capacity expansion?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
I think last time I highlighted, we are going for 8.3 million from the current capacity of about 6.8 million.
And in 3-wheeler, we are going from 0.25 million capacity to about 0.42 million.
So this is a big, big increase, and that's why we are also investing somewhere around, including our new products, we are investing about INR 3,500 crores, new products plus all the capacity expansion, which is going to come over the last, next one quarter is over second quarter, third quarter.
By fourth quarter, we will reach is 8.3 million capacity.
Kapil Singh
And also on the cost increase, can you quantify how much was the cost increase that commodity cost increase we saw in Q1?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Commodity cost, I think, is about 3.5% and maybe another 0.5% this quarter because there is a quarterly adjustments.
So overall, you can take about 3.5% or 0.5%, so about 4%.
Kapil Singh
Okay.
And sir, just last question, you mentioned on...
Moderator · Conference Operator
Sorry, so the participant got disconnected.
We have our next question from line of Deep Vakil.
Deep Vakil
Sir, only one question.
Congratulations on a good set of numbers.
Sir, can you just give some guidance on the gearing?
I think you've raised INR 500 crores lately at INR 730 crores.
Sir, you TVS Motor Company Limited July 21, 2026 have a preference share redemption on 1st of September.
Any plans, sir, to raise similar, I mean, to raise funds through debt in near term?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Lost s communication and noise, can you repeat the question?
Deep Vakil
Sure, sir.
Sir, what I'm saying is that, I think you have some share redemption.
Sir, I'll join the queue again, no problem.
I'll join the queue.
Moderator · Conference Operator
Yes, sir, he said he will join the queue again.
We have our next question from the line of Chandramouli Muthiah from Goldman Sachs.
Chandramouli Muthiah
My first question is just around the draft Delhi EV policy looking to ban sale of ICE 2-wheelers possibly starting in calendar year 2028.
So, I just want to understand how you're thinking about potential offsets to the policy, how the industry is thinking about the policy at this stage?
And also, is it going to be necessary to have electric motorcycle models in the market to potentially give customers the option to replace motorcycle format from ICE to EV in that micro market?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
See, these are all transitions we have to embrace, and we have to look at, for example, when electric penetration was not there, I think we went through a certain journey.
But one thing I can tell you is that today, the BS6 or the new technologies, what we are talking about the EV, also the flex fuel, all are green.
So, I think the way we will look at it is how do we make sure that we give green vehicles for the future.
So, this is going to be the journey.
And we will embrace these changes as an industry, and we will also work on new technologies.
Chandramouli Muthiah
Got it.
That's helpful.
Second question is just around, as you build out the northern presence in more and more countries.
Just wanted to get your sense on how you're thinking about the go-to- market strategy?
Is it going to be more place the product in multi-brand outlet or are you looking at doing it in single brand outlets?
Will these be with local partners is TVS looking to own some of the stores to get early learning.
So, this is Norton strategy?
And related to that, what is the rough volume you think the Norton motorcycles will need to hit to be able to achieve EBITDA breakage at some point in the future?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
I think what is the most important is, these products are ready now, okay?
We have started now establishing.
It's a combination of independent dealers and multi-brand outlets in the premium category.
So, it will be a combination.
And we are, like I said, first is U.K. and Europe and U.S. and India is very, very important in this journey.
So, we will look at first getting the product range fully, two into two, which is four products are getting ready now is getting into the market, and there is going to be a very clear positioning of these brand super premium bikes, which are going to be very, very attractive.
And overall, I think it is going to delight the super-premium customers.
This is number one.
Number two, as a company, we believe in delighting the customer first.
Then we grow the top TVS Motor Company Limited July 21, 2026 line because when the top line comes every line will come, okay?
And that has been the consistent strategy of the company.
And I'm pretty confident that Norton, the way TVS has taken the ownership to drive it and pretty confident between Solihull and Hosur.
I am very confident it will drive and delight the customers first.
Then we will start of course, there is a very clear plan number, how do we achieve number by number.
But this is an internal completely and internal strategy.
And both the market will depend upon the consumer, country specific.
That itself will take -- if I have the answer here, it will take so much of time.
That's why I broadly said it is going to be through premium experience.
It is going to delight the customer.
And this product itself, you would have seen many of the articles from the media, the specialists have driven it.
They have seen it, and you will see also, Atlas, the feedback from the magazines are likely to come in a couple of days.
So, I'm pretty confident that these are all very clearly identified the very specific super premium category positioning.
And we are also now expanding the network.
So, the most important part is getting the products and customer loving it.
I'm pretty confident given the kind of products, what we are seeing and the feedback initially what we are getting is going to be very good.
Chandramouli Muthiah
If you could share spares revenue and I'll just go back in the queue.
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Spare parts revenue.
Give me a minute.
Spare part is INR 1,173 crores.
Chandramouli Muthiah
Got it.
Moderator · Conference Operator
We have our next question from the line of Amit Hiranandani from PhillipCapital.
Amit Hiranandani
Sir, my question is broadly strategic in nature and relative to export opportunities.
I'm just combining these three questions into one for you to answer.
First, how do you see exports evolving for the company over the next 5 years in light of the free trade agreements Secondly, which products and segments are likely to be key export drivers?
And lastly, what will be the critical success factor for winning in global markets?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Brilliant question.
Today, as we speak, the contribution from exports is about 26%.
I am saying just from my memory overall turnover, okay?
And this will grow as we speak, it will grow.
The reason behind this growth is the kind of product range what we have from India and also from PT TVS Indonesia.
I would say that we have the best range in the industry.
Second, market by market, we are very confident that the segment-wise, we are also looking at what products we need for the future, and we are also investing behind that.
Areas where we can significantly leverage this premium and super premium category, Apache is very good.
Ronin can be leveraged very well in many markets.
And the new products, whatever like, including RTX.
I think these are products, country specific, we can leverage it, take them and then grow them.
TVS Motor Company Limited July 21, 2026 On the other side, scooters.
There are specific markets where scooters do very well.
Here I am not including HLX as a category.
HLX as a category, as I said, 100, 125, 150, four speeds, five speed.
I think this is something which is growing very fast.
And on PT TVS, if we look at the Skubek and Bebek, they are doing extremely well in many markets, and we are now further expanding the capacity in Indonesia that is also going to help us.
So, the growth ambition we want to grow this 26%, much, much higher level going forward, okay?
We have started our EV journey in the international. iQube has started, Orbiter has started.
And I'm very confident that soon we will start with our 3-wheelers.
So, the most important thing is our presence in this market.
We have very strong distributors and we focus on three S as a capability.
Sales, services, spare parts.
From day 1 we look at giving the best quality, best durability, best liability to our customers, and we make sure that the service is given utmost importance.
So, these strategies are enablers for making sure that we grow disproportionately our international footprint.
And like I said, Africa has become very strong.
Asia is very strong for us.
Now the entire focus is on Middle East and LatAm.
Including how do we grow their faster, what kind of spaces we have, customer segments we need to do, okay?
And we prioritize and take this journey.
I hope I have answered you.
Of course, with Norton and some of the brands from India, especially on the super-premium category, we are now getting into the developed market as well.
Amit Hiranandani
Yes.
This is very helpful, sir.
Sir, just one clarification on the domestic growth guidance which you have given.
Can you please let us know what is the full year target you have given for the industry?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
I said it could be double digits in ICE.
EV can be well above the penetration is about 10.6%.
I think quarter-after-quarter, this will strengthen.
The growth can be very, very good this year.
Moderator · Conference Operator
We have our next question from the line of Arvind Sharma from Citibank.
Arvind Sharma
The first question is on Norton.
What's the target segment and the competitors that you're looking at when launching these four models?
And what will be the key differentiator for Norton?
If it is comparable, what was the peak volume for Norton historically?
And sir, your investments there?
That's the first question.
K.N. Radhakrishnan
On Norton, I answered you, I think we are looking at certain segments and the product will be both Manx and also Manx R and also Atlas and Atlas GT.
We are very clearly focused on one is a super bike another one is naked and sport, and another one is adventure and sport touring.
We respect all the competitors there; they are all very strong.
They have been there for a long time.
But anything you give something new, and you can because if I take answering what are the unique features and technology, what we are offering, it will take another 10 minutes to explain to you.
It's already published documents that are available.
You can go through that.
TVS Motor Company Limited July 21, 2026 There are many things which are unique in starting from the design itself.
So, there are many things which are unique in Norton.
And the important we look at the customer segment and give the best-in-class product, the performance itself.
So, I'm pretty confident and like I said, we are focusing on the customer first and then looking at establishing distribution network, service and making sure that market by market, in this strategy, creating the awareness and the consideration significantly investing behind brand because Norton is a super-premium brand, okay?
And that will translate into good volumes.
Arvind Sharma
Sure, sir.
What would be the investment you've made till now?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
So far, we have invested about INR 2,000 crores, about INR 2,500 crores in the last 4, 5 years.
Arvind Sharma
The second question would be on the other expenses.
There was a marked decline in other expenses.
Are these sustainable and what were the key specific areas where this decline came from?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
The other expenses includes marketing, it includes logistics and includes many packing.
If you recollect in the month of April, there was a loss of production due to certain challenges because of this war situation and sudden availability of supplier parts.
So, the conscious effort to look at some of these costs but in May and June, we are very happy that the production has come back to the normal level.
We have not reduced anything.
We looked at in terms of investing behind brand, we have looked at in terms of as a percentage, I don't think you will see a marked difference going forward.
Whenever a new product launch is there, definitely, you will see the costs going up because there is a launch cost.
But in this quarter, there was no launch from our side.
Arvind Sharma
Got it, sir.
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Can we go to the last question, please?
Moderator · Conference Operator
Sure, sir.
The last question will be from the line of Pramod Amthe from InCred Capital.
Pramod Amthe
Sir, if I have to look at your annual report, you indicated that you have got a government incentive of almost INR 1,100 crores.
First question regarding the same is what's the split between PLI and the other export incentive of the same one?
Second, against that, you are showing almost pending receivable of around INR 700 crores, which is almost around if I look at 12 months sales, it's almost like 7, 8 months.
How confident you are where is it stuck?
What is happening there?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
These are all PLI.
If you look at many of the receivables are once in a year, and we are confident that all this will come.
There is nothing which is going to be affecting us going forward.
And I already told you about 0.6%, 0.7% related to PLI last year.
The remaining are all other incentives from exports.
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Pramod Amthe
So, in that calculation, INR1,100 crores is like almost like a 2.4% of your sales.
Right?
The incentive.
You are saying 0.6% is PLI, remaining should be almost around 1.8%?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Our exports has done last year also pretty well.
Pramod Amthe
Right.
So, then there is also a receivable bit pending from even export incentives?
Because it looks like one-fourth is PLI, which is like just a INR 150 crores, INR 300 crores?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
No, I don't want to get into mathematics here.
There is no concern in that area.
Some are quarterly, some are annually.
PLI is annually.
Pramod Amthe
Yes.
But I was just asking if I split it up, just around INR 350 crores is PLI, versus that, the INR 750 crores is a receivable.
If you're saying the large part is PLI receivable?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
Yes, INR 600 crores is about PLI, that's a receivable.
Pramod Amthe
And you are confident you will get it?
K.N. Radhakrishnan
100%.
Government has always supported.
There's absolutely nothing to worry about it.
Pramod Amthe
Okay, sure.
K.N. Radhakrishnan
And finally, I just wanted to you have seen the Q1. You have seen the recorded highest revenue, EBITDA and PBT.
And I'm very sure that with our unwavering focus on consumer quality, we'll continue to grow ahead of the industry.
The best range TVS has got Apache, Jupiter, Jupiter 125, iQube, Orbiter, Raider, Ntorq, HLX, Radeon, Ronin, TVS King, TVS King Kargo, and EV.
And we will continue to leverage the scale benefits, focus premiumization, Material cost reduction, and I'm pretty confident that we will continue to have this journey on EBITDA as well as the top line growth.
And thanks to our customers for helping us to cross HLX 5 million and 1 million iQube.
And I'm confident that Q2 will be a much better quarter than Q1. Thank you.
Moderator · Conference Operator
Thank you so much, sir.
On behalf of 36O ONE Capital Market Research, that concludes this conference.
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